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  • butterfly(tattoo)

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    Yeah so maybe I should be a little more specific, it was a butterfly tattoo that I saw and am interested in getting any help would be wonderful.                         Thanks

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    1) Get some imagination. 2) Take that imagination to a a) book store or b) library and find a book about butterflies (they aren’t as rare as all that, you know) or stay at home and type "butterfly" into a search engine. 3) Find a picture of that butterfly (How the HELL could we know which one, out of hundreds of thousands of real or imagined/stylized tattooed butterflies is THE ONE you’re looking for?) 4) Bring the picture of that butterfly to a tattoo artist and ask him to do it. If it is a picture of a TATTOO of a butterfly, have some class, and don’t ask the tattoo artist to COPY it exactly, but tell him (artist, see – should be able to draw) that you want something LIKE it. In other words: its for YOU. Put some effort into it. Susan http://scamptattoo.com

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    writes: >Yeah so maybe I should be a little more specific, it was a butterfly tattoo >that I saw and am interested in getting any help would be wonderful. >                        Thanks

    Try Art.com It’s a great site for graphics and I got over 300 hits by just typing "butterfly". Tiger ~ Tiger                     To live another day to be educated is what I’m all about.  All I ask is that you do it gently as I bruise easily.

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  • CELTIC tattoo designs?

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    Hi all… Does anyone know of any locations (WWW or otherwise) to find Celtic tattoo designs?  Any URLs?  Thanks! — keri (e-mail please!) i need something to remind me that there is something else — blur    

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    > Hi all… > Does anyone know of any locations (WWW or otherwise) to find Celtic > tattoo designs?  Any URLs?  Thanks! > — keri (e-mail please!) > i need something to remind me that there is something else — blur

    Hi, Keri: I recently did a similar search… and eventually ended up choosing between a slightly modified design from one of the books and something I designed based on a detail from the Book of Kells. I hope to get pics of both the one I know have on my body and the other one up, soon. Celtic designs are pretty popular, now-a-days and often there is plenty of flash to choose from. Studio Zee even had books in the back with Celtic designs that they were willing to modify to suit my tastes. Check out tattoo places and ask to see their books. here’s what I found: 159 Celtic Designs – Amy Lusebrink Celtic Stencil Designs – Co Spinhoven Celtic Art (the methods of construction) – George Bain http://home.dti.net/funcity/jewelry.htm http://www.grizzly-graphics.com/patw/tattoo1.jpg also, I downloaded some pics and now I can’t remember where I found them so, as posting binaries is not appropriate, I’ll e-mail them to you.                         – candace

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    > Hi all… > Does anyone know of any locations (WWW or otherwise) to find Celtic > tattoo designs?  Any URLs?  Thanks! > — keri (e-mail please!)

    I have an extensive book list of Celtic Art at my WWW/FTP site. http://members.aol.com/celtic01/content.htm http://members.aol.com/celtic01/celtic01.htm

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    >Does anyone know of any locations (WWW or otherwise) to find Celtic >tattoo designs?  Any URLs?  Thanks!

    Please see the Tattoo FAQ and the RAB Webpage for references. http://www.eskimo.com/~rab Renowned Celtic artist Pat Fish is putting up a webpage of her own, too. —                                 * Ardvark *                               Anne Greenblatt                   Piercing FAQ Manager for rec.arts.bodyart                              Piercing Exquisite                       http://www2.ba.best.com/~ardvark

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  • tattoo in LA

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    hey there can anyone recommend a good tattoo artist in the LA area?  would be most obliged.  also, how common is a bad red reaction?  thanks.  :)

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    >hey there >can anyone recommend a good tattoo artist in the LA area?  would be most >obliged.  also, how common is a bad red reaction?  thanks.  :)

    It would help if you tell us what kind of style you are looking for. LA has lots of great tattooist doing work that is worlds apart… matching a stlye to an artist is important ;) ~ Shawn/SPC ***"Is that a subincision in your Pocket, or are you just glad to see me?" All types of body modification photos available for trade only…submissions welcomed****

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  • freehand tattoos (was Typo on tattoos)

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    : That’s almost as bad as the "Dessert Storm" tattoo I saw a couple of :years ago. If everybody conducted war as a food fight, world might be a happier place. "Incoming tapioca pudding!" To segue a bit, i’m curious what folks ’round here think about artists who work entirely freehand.  i was talking to a friend who has a rather nice snake tatt by Dave Heydn up in Seattle.  Dave is well known for his black and gray work, and does a sensational job turning photographs into ink, but he only works freehand.  Although i thought the snake turned out rather nicely, my friend was unhappy with certain aspects of it which weren’t done the way he wanted, always a risk with freehand work. Where do you feel about the tradeoff between having something really sensational, but something that isn’t quite ‘yours’? — boy brent                       | "Well, I’ve had a pretty

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    -> To segue a bit, i’m curious what folks ’round here think about -> artists who work entirely freehand.  All of the artists I’ve watched work freehand on large custom tattoos. Most of ‘em still use transfers when working with off-the-wall flash. I guess it’s still quicker even if they’ve tattooed that wizard 134 times… ==  JOHNSON TOOLS – you’ll always get your nut with a big Johnson!  ==

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    >To segue a bit, i’m curious what folks ’round here think about artists >who work entirely freehand.  i was talking to a friend who has a rather >nice snake tatt by Dave Heydn up in Seattle.  Dave is well known for his >black and gray work, and does a sensational job turning photographs into >ink, but he only works freehand.  Although i thought the snake turned >out rather nicely, my friend was unhappy with certain aspects of it >which weren’t done the way he wanted, always a risk with freehand work. >Where do you feel about the tradeoff between having something really >sensational, but something that isn’t quite ‘yours’?

    Kari Barba did this great freehand piece on my right calf a couple weeks ago at the San Diego convention.  I am VERY pleased with the results. Barry

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    : >Where do you feel about the tradeoff between having something really : >sensational, but something that isn’t quite ‘yours’? :       :       Speaking of which, I have a friend who had a piece done that :   he was absolutely CRAZY about when it was OUTLINED…then he went :   to get it filled, and HATED what the artist did..it was kinda a :   Geiger-esque metal-pipes-emerging-from-flesh that he wanted "chromed" :   but the artist did "rusted" instead…he wants laser surgery, even :   though the tattoo would be sensational with just a little touch-up. :   Another thing: what would you do if the artist started to do something :   you DIDN’T want? Would you scream "STOP!" or trust her? : –Cyb A tattoo artist is an artist.  You should trust him/her to do what they feel is best.  No matter how you say you want it done, there will be some artistic liscense added to it.  The dragon (soon to be dragons) on my back turned out a heck of a lot better than how I had it in my mind they should look.  The artist (Darrell at Tat-2’s Custon Image Spring Hill, WV) put the dragon in what he called a fighting position and then did some modofications from the original design that I had (it was off the back of a karate uniform).  I go back Friday to get the other dragon outlined and to get the first dragon shaded and colored.  If they ever open an FTP  site where you can upload GIFs of tattoos, I’ll show it to you all.  :)     Sean Breeden

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    >Where do you feel about the tradeoff between having something really >sensational, but something that isn’t quite ‘yours’?

            Speaking of which, I have a friend who had a piece done that   he was absolutely CRAZY about when it was OUTLINED…then he went   to get it filled, and HATED what the artist did..it was kinda a   Geiger-esque metal-pipes-emerging-from-flesh that he wanted "chromed"   but the artist did "rusted" instead…he wants laser surgery, even   though the tattoo would be sensational with just a little touch-up.   Another thing: what would you do if the artist started to do something   you DIDN’T want? Would you scream "STOP!" or trust her? –Cyb

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    : >Where do you feel about the tradeoff between having something really : >sensational, but something that isn’t quite ‘yours’? :       :       Speaking of which, I have a friend who had a piece done that :   he was absolutely CRAZY about when it was OUTLINED…then he went :   to get it filled, and HATED what the artist did..it was kinda a :   Geiger-esque metal-pipes-emerging-from-flesh that he wanted "chromed" :   but the artist did "rusted" instead…he wants laser surgery, even :   though the tattoo would be sensational with just a little touch-up. :   Another thing: what would you do if the artist started to do something :   you DIDN’T want? Would you scream "STOP!" or trust her? My experience was kinda similar:  I had the design I wanted:  A kanji character to be copied directly from a book so there’d be no question  of correct execution.  BUT I wanted it done with a chrome effect.  I had no idea what the chrome would look like once executed.  When I finally saw it, it was different from my mental image, but still cool.  I still wish I could have chosen a pattern from a book of "texture map flash"…  But I get lots of compliments and am happy with the symbol for what it means, not how it looks. — Benjamin Feen Theatrical Technology major at large Woo!

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    : >Where do you feel about the tradeoff between having something really : >sensational, but something that isn’t quite ‘yours’? :       :       Speaking of which, I have a friend who had a piece done that :   he was absolutely CRAZY about when it was OUTLINED…then he went :   to get it filled, and HATED what the artist did..it was kinda a :   Geiger-esque metal-pipes-emerging-from-flesh that he wanted "chromed" :   but the artist did "rusted" instead…he wants laser surgery, even :   though the tattoo would be sensational with just a little touch-up. :   Another thing: what would you do if the artist started to do something :   you DIDN’T want? Would you scream "STOP!" or trust her? When I got my custom design done, I walked in with my basic idea, but Tom (from Middle Earth Tattoo, Colorado Springs, CO) really developed it into real artwork…on paper.  After we worked on the design and I was satisfied, then we started the tattoo.  I had a lot of ideas about the coloring I wanted, which I told Tom.  It turned out that he ignored some of them, which made me nervous when he was working on me.  When I asked him (before he got too far along), he explained why he had gone for a slightly different color scheme than I had originally told him.  It all made sense and I’m very pleased with the final product. I think that if the artist starts doing something that you don’t want, you need to stop them and ask what’s up.  If they’re even remotely interested in making you a satified customer, they’ll take the time to explain.  To a large extent, you *do* have to trust your artist, but that’s why you look at their work beforehand.  And, of course, you have to live with the final result. Jason

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    :A tattoo artist is an artist.  You should trust him/her to do what they :feel is best.   There is one critical flaw in your analogy.  Other types of artists don’t generally have to worry about the canvas talking back, nor do they have to take into account how the canvas feels, nor does the canvas generally pay the artist’s salary. :No matter how you say you want it done, there will be :some artistic liscense added to it.  The dragon (soon to be dragons) on :my back turned out a heck of a lot better than how I had it in my :mind they should look. To be sure i think it is a wise person who listens to and heeds the advice of hir tattoo artist.  The artist is a professional who (one would hope) has the experience and judgement to ensure that the results will turn out to be pleasing to the owner.  Ultimately, however, it is the owner who has to live with the results.  The owner presumably went in there with some general vision or idea as to what sie wanted the results to be.  In the course of discussing the project the artist may have some input that the owner hadn’t considered, and the resulting teamwork can accomplish more than either party acting alone.  In my backpiece, i had a general idea of what i wanted, and my artist has helped out a great deal in suggesting ways to make it a more sensational piece.  In the process it has become a shared vision, his and mine. But the owner is still, in the end, commissioning the artist to perform within certain guidelines, and it is a wise *artist* who realizes than an unhappy (or worse, pissed off) customer isn’t going to be good for business.  i might have entertained going to see this freehand artist in Seattle but for the negative experience of my friend, which has made me very cautious.  Now, maybe i’ll overcome that caution and go anyway; or maybe i’ll find somebody else, just as good, who will do a better job of involving me in the project. — boy brent                       | "Well, I’ve had a pretty

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  • Looking for help in finding a design

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    Please forgive me if this first post steps outside guidelines, I’ll try to be within scope and brevity. I have wanted for some time to get a first tattoo, a specific mark in a specific place. Specifically (OK, I’ll stop that :-) , I’d like a design at the base of my neck, in the roughly 1.5 – 2" sq. range (I’m a fairly tall person, so this won’t look over-scale on me). I even have some good advice from friends here in the bay area about places to go for the work itself. What I don’t have is a design. I value patience as a quality I have worked to develop, and am able to call upon frequently. I credit my reserves of patience with my current success in life and happiness. So I would like a square-ish symbol for patience. But I can’t find one no matter how hard I try (and I’ve been trying for years, further proof of my commitment :-) . I’ve gone through historical references on cultures such as the Celts, Byzantines, many of the Native American cultures, Buddhism, etc. I’d have preferred not to simply express the word "patience" in a more glyph-driven language such as Chinese, but I even looked it up in several Asian-language dictionaries (specifically Chinese and Korean), and just my luck it’s generally TWO glyphs instead of one, anyway. So if anyone who has had similar challenges in researching designs has any advice or pointers to offer, I’d be most greatful. E-mailed responses would be best, as I don’t have the time for USENET that I used to have. But I will be following r.a.b for a few weeks, in hopes that someone may have some useful tips. Thanks. Randy — """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" """" <A HREF="http://www.svsm.org">Silicon Valley Scale Modelers</A>

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    >I value patience as a quality I have worked to develop, and am able to call >upon frequently. I credit my reserves of patience with my current success in >life and happiness. So I would like a square-ish symbol for patience. But >I can’t find one no matter how hard I try (and I’ve been trying for years, >further proof of my commitment :-) .

    You might have luck if you work with a tattoo artist to create a squarish design, symbolic of patience, that isn’t necessarily an historical symbol.  You could work with the artist to create a design that signfies patience to you that would be unique to your experience. Good luck! — skyelass Got questions?  Get answers over the phone at Keen.com. Up to 100 minutes free! http://www.keen.com

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  • "Into You" London UK – Advice please

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    Getting a celtic tattoo done – was planning to use Matt at Into You – but he’s leaving. Anyone have any advice on other tattooists there. Curly’s portfolio looks good – but would appreciate some personal views. thanks

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    Curly has done some work which I think is tip top – amongst the most beautiful I’ve ever seen. His interest seems to be block blackwork, which he is stunning with. He also seems a charming chap. Drawbacks? Um…none really…except he doesn’t seem to be very artistically literate. For instance, he doesn’t know who Keith Haring is. Does this matter? Only you can decide if it matters to you. ric& Il y a quelque chose que, sans un pli, sans une tache, J’emporte malgre vous – c’est mon panache.

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    > Curly has done some work which I think is tip top – amongst the most > beautiful I’ve ever seen. His interest seems to be block blackwork, which > he is stunning with. He also seems a charming chap. > Drawbacks? Um…none really…except he doesn’t seem to be very > artistically literate. For instance, he doesn’t know who Keith Haring is. > Does this matter? Only you can decide if it matters to you.

    At first I tried to ignor this response, but unfortunately I can’t as it is the second time I have heard you comment on Curly’s art knowledge. What the hell has being *artistically literate* got to do with being an excellent tattoo artist? Who are you to judge anyway? I accept that you could pass your opinion on his tattoo work – but why be so pretentious? — Joe T.

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    |> Curly has done some work which I think is tip top – amongst the most |> beautiful I’ve ever seen. His interest seems to be block blackwork, which |> he is stunning with. He also seems a charming chap. I’ll second this: a friend of mine has a large arm piece done by Curly and it is stunning… and entirely freehand. I’ve also seen other pieces by him "in the flesh" and have been impressed. I’m planning to go to him for my next (2nd) tattoo… — One hand is tied, one step gets behind, in one breath we’re dying – KC                        http://www.ocsltd.com

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    [snip] > Drawbacks? Um…none really…except he doesn’t seem to be very > artistically literate. For instance, he doesn’t know who Keith Haring is. > Does this matter? Only you can decide if it matters to you. [snip] >What the hell has being *artistically literate* got to do with being >an excellent tattoo artist? Who are you to judge anyway? I accept that >you could pass your opinion on his tattoo work – but why be so >pretentious?

    One drawback to going to a tattoo artist who isn’t very artistically literate [hmm - "literate" doesn't feel quite right.  Is there an equivalent to "well read" in terms of art?] is that you have to bring in examples of anything you’re hoping to incorporate.  With someone who is artistically literate, you could simply say "and then I’d like something with that Keith Haring-ish motion feeling to it, you know?" and have confidence that they’d know what you mean. Personally, I find it much easier if I can say "I want this subject, in this arrangement, with sort of a woodcut block print feeling to it" than I do to try to find representations of woodcut block prints to bring in with me. It’s all part of making sure you have a common frame of reference for anything you’re asking them to permanently inscribe on your skin.         I appreciate and support Lani and Anne’s efforts to keep r.a.b.            a friendly, useful, interesting and readable newsgroup   "Truth resides in every human heart, and one has to search for it there,   and to be guided by truth as one sees it.  But no one has a right to   coerce others to act according to his own view of truth."        – Mohandas K. Gandhi

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    > One drawback to going to a tattoo artist who isn’t very artistically > literate [hmm - "literate" doesn't feel quite right.

    IO have to agree, as illiterate is a very imotive word. [snip] > Personally, I find it much easier if I can say "I want this subject, in > this arrangement, with sort of a woodcut block print feeling to it" than I > do to try to find representations of woodcut block prints to bring in with > me. > It’s all part of making sure you have a common frame of reference for > anything you’re asking them to permanently inscribe on your skin.

    I guess Emily, that I don’t use a tattooist in the way that you or indeed as it seems, others wish to. I don’t see my tattooist as merely a technician who’s sole job is to *inscribe* a pre-defined pattern into my skin. I see my tattooist as an artist who has his own style. This is precisely why one should, IMO, take the trouble to seek out an artist who’s style is close to the style one wants. I know that Roy (Summers) is now my best mate and that I work in his studio, weekends, but it was not always like that, when I fist discovered Roy, I used to have to do a 250 mile round trip to get work by him. I never once conserned myself with how well read Roy is or how well he is able to quote from others on the relative merits of one artist over another, his work said all I needed to know about his ability and style. Joe T. ——-

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  • Looking for Tattoo Artist

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    Rabs, I am looking for a tattoo artist named Shawn Anderson, or possibly Sean Anderson. I have seen his work in tattoo magizines and 2 years ago saw him work at the Philadelphia, Pa convention. I know that his business card was picked up but cannot find it anywhere and cannot remember his shops name nor which state he is in. Any help you could possibly furnish would be greatly appreciated. Thank You Bigdog

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    , >Rabs, >I am looking for a tattoo artist named Shawn Anderson, or possibly Sean >Anderson. I have seen his work in tattoo magizines and 2 years ago saw >him work at the Philadelphia, Pa convention.

    His shop is caled Electric Dragonland at 923 Main St in Hopkins, Minnesota…phone is 612/933-2097 Dave Yurkew

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    electric dragonland in hopkins ray — TATTOO =  STAINED  GLASS WINDOW ON THE TEMPLE OF MY SOUL Contact me for your tattoo shop insurance needs – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Rabs, > I am looking for a tattoo artist named Shawn Anderson, or possibly Sean

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    SHAWN ANDERSON IS LOCATED IN HOPKINS MN, DONT HAVE HIS  #  HANDY, HIS WORK IS TOP NOTCH STUFF,AND WELL WORTH HIS FEE……HE IS STRICTLY CUSTOM ie;no stencil. AND HAS GREAT TALENT IN ALL STYLES OF TATTOOING.will e-mail his number to you soon.

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    dave, your to smooth. must have had the rolo dex handy !

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    Nope….just the Yellow Pages.. Dave

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    I am looking for Colin Ochel. Anyone knowing his e-mail or current web page please post the information. Thanks…Myrddin *

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  • Question…

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    I’ve designed a custom tattoo that I’d like to have inked on my back, but I have a problem.  The design I created involves some fairly intricate celtic knotwork, and I’d like to keep the tattoo small (c. 3").  How finely can a tattoo artist draw something like that?  I have no idea how close together you can place lines without blurring.  Anyone out there that can help me out?   Sam

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    > I’ve designed a custom tattoo that I’d like to have inked on my back, but I > have a problem.  The design I created involves some fairly intricate celtic > knotwork, and I’d like to keep the tattoo small (c. 3").  How finely can a

    A 3" ‘intricate celtic knotwork’ piece?  Gah.  Your artist will curse you.  And it won’t look all that hot unless you get somebody really, REALLY good.  And they’ll probably charge you double or triple because, believe me, i know VERY few artists who enjoy that stuff. Go bigger.  Seriously.  You’ll like it better, it will look better, and it will hold up longer.   You want decoration, a statement, bodyart, not a birth-mark. TQ

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    > I’ve designed a custom tattoo that I’d like to have inked on my back, but I > have a problem.  The design I created involves some fairly intricate celtic > knotwork, and I’d like to keep the tattoo small (c. 3").  How finely can a > tattoo artist draw something like that?  I have no idea how close together you > can place lines without blurring.  Anyone out there that can help me out?   > Sam

    try anil gupta (NYC) to get some ideas of what I think are really good celtic designs.  He also has some amazing small detail work (think size of a half-dollar here) which will give you some idea of size issues. Like Tabaqui said, though, bigger is better for back pieces and celtic work both… bkr

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  • jobs, bodmods and flak

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    Seems many people get flak on their job for having bodmods (ref: discussions a few weeks ago). A few days ago I got some flak too. But I get it for my job, not my mods. For some reason people keep asking me when I will stop making games, and "get a real job". Not a single person has yet given my a hard time for my choice of tattoos, only for my choice of work.  ’tis a strange world we live in. — Espen "Nameless" Berntsen Game programmer at FunCom Oslo A/S http://www.funcom.com

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    >Seems many people get flak on their job for having bodmods (ref: discussions >a few weeks ago). A few days ago I got some flak too. But I get it for my >job, not my mods. >For some reason people keep asking me when I will stop making games, and >"get a real job". Not a single person has yet given my a hard time for my >choice of tattoos, only for my choice of work.

    But you’re a programmer. Programmers are *EXPECTED* to look weird. I found that because I don’t dress like a punk, people come up to me and ask me if I’M A COMPUTER PROGRAMMER. They don’t ask me if I’m a tattoo artist or a piercer. Since programmers look weird (a stereotype re-enforced by TV), since I look really weird, I must be a really good programmer!         Shannon BME: Body Modification Ezine                 http://www.BME.FreeQ.com/

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    >Since programmers look weird (a stereotype re-enforced by TV), since I look >really weird, I must be a really good programmer!

    PS. I am. :)         Shannon BME: Body Modification Ezine                 http://www.BME.FreeQ.com/

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    > For some reason people keep asking me when I will stop making games, and > "get a real job". Not a single person has yet given my a hard time for my > choice of tattoos, only for my choice of work.

    *** Ask them to watch you on yer workstation for an hour. >  ’tis a strange world we live in.

    *** No shit. Keith "Who is a PlayStation Freek" A. Modern American BodyArts, Inc. Member APP 718/680.9775 http://www.cybercondo.com/pub/bodyart http://www.cybercondo.com/pub/bodyart/rabcon.html

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    > >Since programmers look weird (a stereotype re-enforced by TV), since I look >really weird, I must be a really good programmer! > PS. I am. :)

    Well I have no visible pierces or tattoos but when I went in to get my 3rd tat, the artist asked me what I did for a living.  After telling him, he said, "I knew it had something to do with computers".  Guess I have the look too.   PS.  I’m not, but I do work with them all day.  :)                                               __o                                                             _`<,_     — Dave Thangyuh.  Thangyuh vurry mudge.  .  .  .  (*)/ (*) Bermuda likes my sig!!!   Bermuda likes my sig!!!   Bermuda likes my sig!!! obQuestion?:  On a septum pierce, curved barbell, any ideas how to keep the thing up in your nose?  I’m always having to stop and stick my fingers up my nose to prevent it from falling down low enough that it’s seen.

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    >>Seems many people get flak on their job for having bodmods (ref: discussions >a few weeks ago). A few days ago I got some flak too. But I get it for my >job, not my mods. >For some reason people keep asking me when I will stop making games, and >"get a real job". Not a single person has yet given my a hard time for my >choice of tattoos, only for my choice of work. >But you’re a programmer. Programmers are *EXPECTED* to look weird. I found >that because I don’t dress like a punk, people come up to me and ask me if I’M >A COMPUTER PROGRAMMER. They don’t ask me if I’m a tattoo artist or a piercer. >Since programmers look weird (a stereotype re-enforced by TV), since I look >really weird, I must be a really good programmer!

    Heh, when I was introduced to people at the firm, many of the producers asked me if I was a graphician :-) — Espen "Nameless" Berntsen Game programmer at FunCom Oslo A/S http://www.funcom.com

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    > Seems many people get flak on their job for having bodmods (ref: discussions > a few weeks ago). A few days ago I got some flak too. But I get it for my > job, not my mods. > For some reason people keep asking me when I will stop making games, and > "get a real job". Not a single person has yet given my a hard time for my > choice of tattoos, only for my choice of work. >  ’tis a strange world we live in.

    Take them to a computer game store and ask them if those games reproduced spontaneously, or if not, how they came to be! tooki *    tooki, aka Tonio     * *         soon at         * *  http://clan.ch/tejada  *

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    > TV), since I look >really weird, I must be a really good programmer! > PS. I am. :) >         Shannon > BME: Body Modification Ezine                 http://www.BME.FreeQ.com/

    well BME is certainly well-coded. What programming do/did you do? tooki *    tooki, aka Tonio     * *         soon at         * *  http://clan.ch/tejada  *

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    snip > Since programmers look weird (a stereotype re-enforced by TV)

    Well, Bill Gates really DOES look like a nerd. And since he’s what everyone THINKS a programmer is like… tooki snip P.S. His nerdiness shines through even the best pro makeover *    tooki, aka Tonio     * *         soon at         * *  http://clan.ch/tejada  *

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    >snip > Since programmers look weird (a stereotype re-enforced by TV) >Well, Bill Gates really DOES look like a nerd. And since he’s what >everyone THINKS a programmer is like…

    Except of course that he doesn’t program :) — Espen "Nameless" Berntsen Game programmer at FunCom Oslo A/S http://www.funcom.com

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    >>  ’tis a strange world we live in. >Take them to a computer game store and ask them if those games >reproduced spontaneously, or if not, how they came to be!

    Heh, when I moved the moving guy asked something like this: him: "So, what are you going to do when you move to Oslo?" me: "I am going to program computer games." him: "AND YOU ARE GETTING PAID FOR THAT????" :) — Espen "Nameless" Berntsen Game programmer at FunCom Oslo A/S http://www.funcom.com

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    On 02-Mar-98 11:48:22, Shannon Larratt / BME said in rec.arts.bodyart: >Seems many people get flak on their job for having bodmods (ref: discussions >a few weeks ago). A few days ago I got some flak too. But I get it for my >job, not my mods. >For some reason people keep asking me when I will stop making games, and >"get a real job". Not a single person has yet given my a hard time for my >choice of tattoos, only for my choice of work. > But you’re a programmer. Programmers are *EXPECTED* to look weird. I found > that because I don’t dress like a punk, people come up to me and ask me if > I’M  A COMPUTER PROGRAMMER. They don’t ask me if I’m a tattoo artist or a > piercer.  Since programmers look weird (a stereotype re-enforced by TV), > since I look  really weird, I must be a really good programmer!

    Well that couldn’t be further from the truth. I’ve been to two computer shows, and I’ll be going to a third in a couple of weeks, and at both of the ones I’ve been to only two people (myself because of my few visible pierces and one other person because of his hair and nails) even came close to the "weird" category. And one of those people (myself – I just work on one, I’m not obsessed with the damn things) wasn’t really enough of a computer person to even want to go (went because my husband wanted to go). Everyone else was pretty "normal." Oh! Oh! Oh! ObShows&Mods: Got me reason for going to this next one. I have an appointment at Cheap Trx in St. Louis for a souvenir pierce. Joyjoyjoy! :) ) 245.5 hours to go ’til I get my tragus or industrial (haven’t decided which yet)!! :) ))) — Beth Wise, alt.atheist #859      | "Your scientists were so aka Ink on #Amiga, Undernet      | preoccupied with whether or not inky(at)csrlink(dot)net          | they could that they didn’t stop http://inky.home.ml.org/         | to think if they should." Amiga 4000/040/25MHz/18MB        |     – "Ian Malcolm," Jurassic Park

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    [snip] > Well that couldn’t be further from the truth. I’ve been to two computer > shows, and I’ll be going to a third in a couple of weeks, and at both of > the ones I’ve been to only two people (myself because of my few visible > pierces and one other person because of his hair and nails) even came close > to the "weird" category…

    Well, I have to agree with you here.  I have been to many Computer Hardware and Software shows along with numorous Seminars and ‘Schools’. And yes, there quite a few ‘weirdos’ out there, but not very many modded folks.  At least not openly modded.  I was just at Comdex in Las Vegas not to long ago, there was approx. 275-300 thousand people there – all computer industry people.  I could count on one hand, including me, the people that had visible mods besides the normal 18g stud earring from the mall. — G


  • Help….Looking for artist

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    Looking for a Tattoo artist named Sean Buss,his work was in Tattoo magazine June 2001,page 44 ,photo was by BT.Any body know where he is or where he works

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    > Looking for a Tattoo artist named Sean Buss,his work was in Tattoo magazine > June 2001,page 44 ,photo was by BT.Any body know where he is or where he works

    last i heard of ol’ sean he opened a shop called Monster Tattoo in pacific beach. that’s san diego in case you’re not familiar. hydi

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    I think this is the info for MONSTER TATTOO in pacific beach: Monster Tattoo (4150 Mission Boulevard, 858-274-2949 Good luck vic   anilgupta.com   inklinestudio.com

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